Casey Gerald grew up gay, black and poor in Dallas, the grandson of an evangelical pastor. And when he received a scholarship to play football at Yale, his world was opened to parts of American society he never knew existed. He joins us to talk about entering elite circles – and feeling conflicted by how they keep people from his background down – which he writes about in his memoir “There Will Be No Miracles Here” (Riverhead Books).
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Photo: Hallo Smith