How can a country as rich as the United States have so many people living at or below the poverty line? Sociologist Matthew Desmond won a Pulitzer Prize in 2017 for his book “Evicted,” and he joins host Krys Boyd to discuss his follow-up investigation, which centers on the idea that affluent Americans, in ways known and unknown, keep poor people poor. Desmond’s new book is “Poverty, by America.”

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